While looking around for some (legal) torrents, I searched for Logos just to see. To my disappointment, there were links to some of the high-end packages that Logos offers, as well as huge files of every book available and cracks to unlock them. I will not do that to my favorite company and hope that no one else on here will either.

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However, there are also some torrents out there with files created on PBB. I do not want to download those without permission from Logos.

Could someone from the company respond either way on this? I do not want to do anything illegal, immoral, or that would hurt Logos. Also, is there any way we can track these guys and at least ask them to take the pirated stuff down? I read on the Still Truth site they were seeding a torrent of PBBs. I think that was just a delivery method they are experimenting with. Nothing illegal about that particular torrent but some would question the wisdom of using the same tools the underbelly of the net uses. I thought the Logos licensing system would prevent the pirated stuff but I guess Satan never sleeps.

It still seems kind of bizarre to steal Bible software. I can't imagine a saved person enjoying a peaceful conscience using stolen software. My wife and I were in a Family Christian store Monday.

We were looking at some Youth materials. One of them was a book with a CD. Someone had stolen the CD and left the book. The store has a security system - those giant things you have to pass through to get out the door. I talked to the store manager for awhile and he said they STILL have problems with theft. I was blown away, just as I was with my torrent discovery. I still would like an answer from Logos if it is OK to download the PBB files.

I assume it is, but I don't want to do it without an OK. Here's my thoughts. I have used Logos for a little over 2 years and I have been amazed at the number of free software specials that have been offered and the willingness for Logos staff to listen to our concerns and do something about it. (for example transfering licenses). Not only would using the software illegally would be stealing, I also think it could be viewed by Logos as a stab in the back given how much they do for us customers. I guess I just want Logos to know that even though the illegal software is out there there are many (myself included) who are loyal to Logos. Brother Jerry, torrents are how most hackers/pirates transmit and download illegal (i.e.

'pirated', neither legal nor properly paid for) software such as Photoshop, MicroSoft operating systems, music CDs and DVDs and such. And now, sadly and sinfully, apparently Bible software, too.

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Hope that helps! The PBB files are all freely distributable with the single rule being that I (or anyone) can not make money on them.

As for the vehicle of Torrent being used to distribute them, I fail to see why the vehicle would be a problem. I once heard of a thief who drove a pickup truck to steal an ATM machine. I am not tempted to get rid of my truck for that reason. Similarly I understand that most software thieves use computers to run their stolen goods, and many of them burn stolen software onto CD's but that does not mean computers or CD's are somehow tainted by that. Bittorrent may in fact be used to distribute stolen goods but it is a completely reliable and legal distribution system. Legitimate companies like FOX, Sega, MTv (yuck), Netgear, Lions Gates films, Paramount pictures and many others use bittorrent to legally distribute their own content.

Finally, The Libronix PBB standard edition page states: “the standard edition of the Libronix Personal Book Builder, which allows free distribution of created resources to other Logos Bible Software users. -- Torrent away. No worries.:-). Torrents are efficient way of distributing large amounts of data. For example if you want to download multiple gigabytes of data form Truth is Still Truth, the download would count against Thomas' account, as well as use a large amount of bandwidth during the download. But with a torrent, Thomas can 'seed' it, and after the the first person downloads it, and also 'seeds' it, the second person downloads it from both of them, cutting the download in half from each seeder. As many people begin to 'seed' it, the average bandwidth drops more and more.